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(Closed) ArchLabs - secured Installation

PostPosted by HarronV » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:40 am

I just installed AL 4.1 on my testnotebook back at work ... without internet connection.
I used the abif-installer, as the root directory went into an LVM.

Hence there was a discussion about the ISO-image's size ... I assumed, that all packages are included. But geany is missing in the installed system. Is it because of the abif-install-script, is it a random error or do I need to have an internet connection?

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Re: ArchLabs - Installation without Internet?

PostPosted by erikdubois » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:24 am

I have tried the abif installer once. If you never did an "Arch install" then you do not know what to do. It is there as a fallback. Abif is not from us. Nor does it seem very active on github. It is taken from the net for the more advanced linux users who know what to do.

Geany is ofcourse installed as is Subliime Text. You will get those via calamares - the graphical installer.

If calamares continuous to behave admirably, we might even consider deleting abif all togetther.
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Re: ArchLabs - Installation without Internet?

PostPosted by HarronV » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:37 am

It is nice, that we can discuss Calamares here, and that I do not have to open a new topic for it. ;-)
As long as Calamares is not able to detect VGs inside a PV it is useless for me. At last they were able to introduce LUKS lately, but to my observation it is not yet implemented in the AL-Installer.
Else, it is simple straight forward and will accomplish most daily users' wish to install linux.

And to answer the implicit question, I did the arch way. And it was in the beginning easier than thought. But I was never able to get X working correctly. Now I know this was due to the wrong Nvidia drivers. :-)

Meanwhile I know, how I want to setup my system. And LVM is one important part for scaling up.
Same goes with my notebook at work. This one will not connect to the internet. It could, but it is not supposed to. Exchange of data will be an external SSD ... which ideally is in the same volumegroup at home and at work.
Thatswhy ... Abif (Yay ;-) it works with LVM) But ... after install at least geany was not on the system. Gimp, Libre Office, ... everything else I checked was installed. So i assume, that it is missing in the Abif-Install-Script ...

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Re: ArchLabs - Installation without Internet?

PostPosted by HarronV » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:04 pm

The version of Calamares, that you use for the ISO, does use possible encryption. I've not seen it yesterday.

But the abif-installer activly removes the Geany-Package at the end of Base-System-Install, together with an XFCE-component.

Right now I am going for a workaround. Installing the system on a secondary drive and move the partitions into LUKS/LVM later. Not much fun, but possible.
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Re: ArchLabs - Installation without Internet?

PostPosted by erikdubois » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:25 pm

There is an easy way... and there are other ways.
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Re: ArchLabs - Installation without Internet?

PostPosted by HarronV » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:31 am

Ha :-) LOL :-D

What is the easy way?

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Re: ArchLabs - Installation without Internet?

PostPosted by erikdubois » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:59 am

That is the graphical installer - calamares.
delete the complete harddisk and let it do its magic
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Re: ArchLabs - Installation without Internet?

PostPosted by HarronV » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:19 am

Hmpf ... :shock:

This would end in a complete different partition scheme than intendend.
And adding /home/volker/data to another blockdevice is a method, I am used to.

As long as the partitions are encrypted and the swap does not end on the ssd I am fine.

I'll give it a try this evenening.

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Re: ArchLabs - Install of secure system

PostPosted by HarronV » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:28 pm

Okay,

Calamares and me will not be friends. But I love ArchLabs, thatswhy I am going to use it as my daily system.

During these days I got to the point, that a scalable, encrypted system is the most important and the very first step for me.
And once I have accomplished this, I am going to v-box, qemu, firejail or whatsoever ArchLabs as a virtual system.

The second step for my base-system, having a minimum of software (i.e. one sort of terminal, ...) is easier to accomplish this way. So hardening the system and keeping it up will be easier.

See you back in a few days ;-)

P.S.: Closing and changing the thread's title
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